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Deniz E.

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« Reply #45 on: 23/11/24, 12:06pm »
So sad to see this go. Wasn't playing frequently, but it was one of my favorite things to do to play some games while catching up with my youtube feed. Thanks for your services all these years, happy meeple will be missed.

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« Reply #46 on: 23/11/24, 01:53pm »
I would very much like to join the “Happy Meeple players” group on Board Game Arena. Unfortunately, I can't get the referal link to work. Clicking it (while logged on to BGA) yields the following message for me: "The referral has not been registered (it may have already been registered, or the link may have expired)". You said the link would be valid until November 2025, so why is it not working for me? (No, I was never a premium member there.) Anyway, I'll definitely look for the group and try to join it manually!

I have asked BGA to investigate and will come back to you. Maybe logging out of BGA first will do the trick. I'll let you know.

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« Reply #47 on: 23/11/24, 02:01pm »
I would very much like to join the “Happy Meeple players” group on Board Game Arena. Unfortunately, I can't get the referal link to work. Clicking it (while logged on to BGA) yields the following message for me: "The referral has not been registered (it may have already been registered, or the link may have expired)". You said the link would be valid until November 2025, so why is it not working for me? (No, I was never a premium member there.) Anyway, I'll definitely look for the group and try to join it manually!

I have asked BGA to investigate and will come back to you. Maybe logging out of BGA first will do the trick. I'll let you know.

Maybe you would consider trying to let us know how to save Happy Meeple?

You are the draughts guy, not just anyone...

Meri R.

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« Reply #48 on: 23/11/24, 02:54pm »
It would be a real shame if criticism of site design - or any kind of criticism - has contributed to the decision to close the site. In a world of style over substance, Happy Meeple stands out as a solid, comfortable, colourful and friendly platform. That's a huge part of its appeal, not something detrimental.

Reading some comments, it seems I'm not the only one who found the site a safely haven (an oasis someone described it as, which is spot on). Life is hard sometimes, for a lot of us. Happy Meeple has offered an escape, a perfect sanctuary to decompress and enjoy familiar, gentle games in an environment that isn't hammered with ads or disruptors. I came here not only to play, but to also clear my head of all the detritus that builds up in the working day. The idea of simply shuffling across to Board Game Arena or anywhere else doesn't take into account the cosy family atmosphere that could be found here.

It didn't even cross my mind that the day would come when it wouldn't be here any more. It's like getting a letter through the door, out of the blue, from your landlord saying that they're suddenly selling up and you've got a few weeks to find a new place to live. I'm surprised how genuinely miserable this has made me, and how much I'd put down roots here.

Daft, really, to feel so attached to something so abstract. But it's a testament to what a damn good site this has been.

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« Reply #49 on: 23/11/24, 06:26pm »
...the cosy family atmosphere that could be found here.
Daft, really, to feel so attached to something so abstract. But it's a testament to what a damn good site this has been.

I am semi-surprised to read so many of you saying something similar. I knew there were many players attached to the platform, coming daily, etc. I read many positive comments in the chat. However, I cannot remember any glowing review of the platform. To be honest, there have been very few reviews and I initiated most of them. I don't remember reading an article or even a post saying "Wow Happy Meeple is wonderful, you must try it, it's so good, so special". As a result, an organic growth was difficult.

This doesn't explain everything. I am sure that the lack of blockbuster games (although we had Lost Cities and Cartographers) and the small number of games did not help (the platform mainly grew when we added games). And I guess that what most of you found great about the platform was not liked so much by the others who tried the platform. Another assumption I have is that because we offered bots and 2-player games only, players did not really need to invite their friends to the platform. Paradoxically, the design of the platform, aiming to solve the critical mass issue and thus allowing to play quickly even if there were not many people available may have hindered the growth.

A few times, I had the idea to ask the community to communicate. I think that's the thing that would have been most helpful. Maybe a challenge like "let's get to from 400 to 600 daily players together by whatever means" would have been embraced by the community and yield results. I don't know. A community can sometimes build incredible things. My bad for not trying to unleash your obvious potential.

There are many things that could have been tried, but many of them were hard to put in place. One of them was to change the food system. But then what to do with the world, the granaries, the wheat wield, the roads? It would have required a lot of changes for a very uncertain gain. Opening the platform to multiplayer games (3+ players) was another idea, but required a major rewriting of the platform too. Maybe develop more complex games?

As has been written here in various forms, it is very likely that the design choice of the platform gave it a particular feel and that that particular feel could only please certain kind of people. Hence a niche product with little financial viability. It is all conjecture obviously. We'll never know.

I have to agree that you were a great community. People fight everywhere online nowadays. And not only on X. You were incredibly easy to deal with. Yes, we were quick to get rid of aggressive people and unacceptable behaviour, but honestly we did not have much to do on that side. So all I can conclude again is that the design of the platform attracted a particular set of people.

Please join the "Happy Meeple Players" group on Board Game Arena and let's try to recreate that bubble. Anyone wants to organize a tournament? Or something similar? The group has a "messaging system", so it's easy to communicate between members.

Finally, you should absolutely know that I am absolutely convinced that Board Game Arena has grown thanks to its community. It would not be nowhere near what it is now if it had not relied heavily on its volunteers to code new games, write tutorials or translate the games in many many languages.

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« Reply #50 on: 23/11/24, 11:09pm »
Like so many of the community members, I am sad about this news, but absolutely not angry: I am very grateful that I could find HM and enjoy my time playing all those years ! Thanks a lot for all that you have done !

I agree with the comments saying that you just not create a great place to play, but also a family of gamers that loved their cosy HM !
We definitely love it.

I feel sad that you have been touched by some critics.. I am myself an artist and designer and I particularly loved the design of Happy Meeple: it’s intuitive, simple, welcoming, cute and have this neo-retro style I love so much !
As we say : “less is more”.. that is an esthetic for ever.
In a lot of creation field, many people have bad taste, and it’s necessary to let go some critics ;)
I have played in BGA as well, it’s ok, there are a lot of games I also like, but I prefer from far this place.
Happy Meeple is wonderful creation that allowed a great community to have some happy time !
Thanks for all that !

If we could help, in anyways, please let us know.
Thank you so much Jimmy :)
And Botox is really well trained ;)

Alex B.

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« Reply #51 on: Today at 01:54 am »
FWIW I like Happy City and Love Letter, both on BGA.

I will miss Happy Meeple though.  I guess I will never get that 6th pip (the final meeple!) in Lost Cities.  Ah well.

Thomas W.

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« Reply #52 on: Today at 02:16 am »
Is there an amount of money that would allow you to change your mind?

Alex B.

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« Reply #53 on: Today at 03:05 am »
Could you donate your happy meeple website or code or something to BGA?

Romain C.

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« Reply #54 on: Today at 09:46 am »
Dommage, c'était bien ces petits jeux à utiliser au calme. J'ai acheté certain jeux grâce à cette plateforme. :'(

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« Reply #55 on: Today at 11:38 am »
ich kann mich nicht bei BGA registrieren er nimmt meinen Benutzernamen nicht an könnte mir jemand schreiben wie es geht? habe den link benutzt aber ich bekomme bei Benutzername immer nur einen roten Balken

Jimmy V.

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« Reply #56 on: Today at 11:41 am »
ich kann mich nicht bei BGA registrieren er nimmt meinen Benutzernamen nicht an könnte mir jemand schreiben wie es geht? habe den link benutzt aber ich bekomme bei Benutzername immer nur einen roten Balken

Probably someone has already taken your username (BGA has 10 million users!).
Please try another username if you have not already done it.

Jimmy V.

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« Reply #57 on: Today at 11:54 am »
I am myself an artist and designer and I particularly loved the design of Happy Meeple: it’s intuitive, simple, welcoming, cute and have this neo-retro style I love so much !
As we say : “less is more”.. that is an esthetic for ever.
In a lot of creation field, many people have bad taste, and it’s necessary to let go some critics ;)
As you are an artist and designer, I appreciate your thoughts on the matter more than a random person. It is important to me and makes me think.
I am not emotionally attached to my creation and my ego is not bruised if people don't like what I do. I know many creators take it personally when their baby is criticized. It is a common issue that can be quite depressing and it is normal after you instead a lot of time on a major project. I don't think I suffer from that.
In terms of design, I don't consider myself too bad but I also know that I am not a pro. So I oscillate between thinking that what I do looks good and the opposite when several critics basically say the same thing. I read several times about the 2000 feel and it would have been foolish to ignore it. There is truth to it obviously. Now maybe it was an asset rather than a liability. Maybe it meant retro rather than outdated. I felt it meant outdated, that's for sure.

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« Reply #58 on: Today at 01:49 pm »
es hat geklappt jetzt Petra S WheetQueen

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« Reply #59 on: Today at 02:36 pm »
Dear Nicolas,

I only read this today, and it is sad news indeed.  Many, many thanks to you for providing this platform where I have learned and played so many enjoyable games and got to meet pleasant people during the past six years!

I have joined the Happy Meeple Players group on BGA and hope to see many of you over there. Certainly BGA feels quite different to our cozy Happy Meeple, but maybe we can preserve a bit of the Happy Meeple spirit in the group there...

Karin S.
(SilentSnowflake on BGA)